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If you are looking to buy or sell a business with no profits, you might wonder how to determine its value. After all, traditional valuation methods based on earnings or cash flow might not apply. However, there are still some ways to estimate the worth of a business with no profits, depending on its industry, stage, and potential. In this article, we will explore some of the best valuation methods for a business with no profits and why they work.
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- Ira W. Miller Ceo and Founder of First Inning Ventures/Venture Capitalist/Board Member
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- Kapil N. Head Techno-Commercial; VP Demonstration @ GTFL| Product Strategy | Previously@ Reliance Ind Ltd.| VF Corp WRANGLER|…
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1 Asset-based valuation
One of the simplest methods to value a business with no profits is to look at its assets. This means adding up the value of all the tangible and intangible assets that the business owns, such as property, equipment, inventory, patents, trademarks, and goodwill. Then, you subtract the value of all the liabilities, such as debt, taxes, and accounts payable. The result is the net asset value or book value of the business. This method works well for businesses that have a lot of assets relative to their revenue, such as manufacturing, real estate, or mining companies.
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- Ira W. Miller Ceo and Founder of First Inning Ventures/Venture Capitalist/Board Member
Look at the Company’s business sector and model first. Does the Company have the revenue coming on line to cover its burn rate? Valuations differ by sector. They also are driven by shareholder confidence in management and their ability to go to market and raise capital. Who are the current institutional investors? Analyze the company’s contracts that are coming on line. Do they create long term residual income and profits? Lastly make sure the company has a valid expense exposure and find out where costs can be cut. There must be a valid time frame from management that shows when the company will reach profitability.
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- Kapil N. Head Techno-Commercial; VP Demonstration @ GTFL| Product Strategy | Previously@ Reliance Ind Ltd.| VF Corp WRANGLER| LEVI's India ltd | Lead teams to grow Revenue to ₹780Cr for brands
User Growth: Prioritize user growth and market penetration i/o profitability to increase valuation.Revenue Growth: Investors may be willing to invest in a startup that is growing rapidly and capturing market shareScalability: Scalability allows startups to capture a larger market shareTechnology and Innovation: Startups that leverage cutting-edge technology for disruption and industry leadershipMarket Opportunity: large and rapidly growing markets can justify high valuationsStrategic Partnerships and Alliances: Collaborations with established companies or strategic partnerships Investor Confidence: Effective communication and transparency It's important to note that while profitability is a key factor in long-term sustainability
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In my opinion there are many approaches. Nevertheless, it is hard to find exact comps. Therefore, I would use a DCF method and make some assumptions. How much did they invest in R&D? Is there a possibility to switch from negative to positive cashflows in the coming years, etc. I think Tesla is a good example. I suggest literature from Aswath Damodaran.
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2 Revenue-based valuation
Another method to value a business with no profits is to look at its revenue. This means multiplying the annual or projected revenue of the business by a certain multiple, depending on the industry and growth rate. For example, a software company might have a revenue multiple of 5, while a retail store might have a revenue multiple of 1. This method works well for businesses that have a high revenue growth potential, such as startups, e-commerce, or technology companies.
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Revenue-based valuation comes into the picture for the firms operating in the niche domain and for the startups not generating profits. Showcasing revenue and revenue growth on a quarter-on-quarter or year-on-year basis is a relatively better medium for valuation. A comparative analysis of the peers should be done to derive the terminal growth percentage for the firm which works as the multiple for calculating the value of the firm.
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3 Discounted cash flow valuation
A third method to value a business with no profits is to look at its future cash flow. This means estimating the amount and timing of the cash inflows and outflows that the business will generate in the next few years, and then discounting them to their present value using a discount rate. The discount rate reflects the risk and opportunity cost of investing in the business. The sum of the present values of the future cash flows is the discounted cash flow value of the business. This method works well for businesses that have a clear and realistic cash flow projection, such as mature, stable, or cyclical companies.
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4 Market-based valuation
A fourth method to value a business with no profits is to look at its market. This means comparing the business to similar businesses that have been sold or traded in the same industry or niche. You can use various metrics, such as revenue, assets, or user base, to find comparable businesses and their valuation ratios. Then, you apply those ratios to your own business to get an estimate of its market value. This method works well for businesses that have a lot of market data and benchmarks available, such as public companies, franchises, or online platforms.
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- Valentina Then Manager - Business Management at KROST
These traditional methods are great to value a company, but what happens if the economic or the government is the constraint for the business? It has net value, unique and prospect, but current economy is forcing the company to the wall and they couldn’t keep up the cash inflow to cover operating cost.
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- Saurav Sen, CFA Research Analyst | Investor
The best method for evaluating companies with negative cash flows is encapsulated in Michael Mauboussin’s concept of Expectations Investing. Here’s my version of it:1) Clearly state your desired/required return. Say, 100% in 5 years. 2) Back solve to “what needs to happen in the business” to - rationally - expect that return. 3) What needs to happen can be expressed in terms of Desired Free Cash Flow or Desired Revenue (or desired Revenue CAGR). The latter is more intuitive to most people.4) Rationally can be expressed in terms of an “exit multiple”. Normally I put an upper limit of 20X Desired Free Cash Flow. 5) Now subjectively answer the question “do I believe this Desired Revenue CAGR can come to pass?”Hope this helps!
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